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Scientific name: 'Cichlasoma' octofasciatum

Common name: Jack dempsey, listed also as Nandopsis octofasciatum

Region: Central America - South Mexico, Guatemala, Belize and Honduras

Size: max 9 inches

Color: The coloration darkens as the fish matures, from light gray/tan with faint turquoise flecks, to a dark gray/purple. The flecks become very bright, and are usually iridescent blue, green, and gold. The dorsal and anal fins of mature males have long, pointed tips, similar to the convict cichlid. Females lack these long tips.

Jack Dempsey cichlid

Water Chemistry: pH: 7-8, soft water

Temperature: 76-80 (26-28)

Aggression: Very Aggressive> It's quite often difficult to find other fish that can be kept in the aquarium without becoming fish food!

Compatibility: Other large South American cichlids, that can hold their own in the fish tank.

Diet: Omnivorous

How to breed: Within a group, a pair can take up to a year to decide to pair off and breed. Give your Jack Dempseys as large a tank as possible. If the male gets too rough, the female needs room to get away. Provide plenty of cover, such as rocks, caves and fake plants (if you have to). They're substrate spawners, and like many Central American cichlids, you can expect many fry! Both parents will help incubate the eggs and guard the fry when they hatch.

General: The Jack Dempsey cichlid is one of the most commonly known and kept cichlids (or tropical fish for that matter) in the aquarium. The Jack Dempsey cichlid is easy to care for in the aquarium but considered unsuitable for inexperienced aquarists, since it may be difficult to control its aggressive temperament/behaviour. Jack Dempsey cichlids are often kept in their own dedicated aquariums rather than community aquariums or habitat aquariums, but you are able to keep this cichlid with other species - if you select tank mates very carefully. Avoid standard community aquarium species, since they will be bullied by the Jack Dempsey cichlid.

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brandon felix (Unregistered) 2007-01-16 19:33:02

how old is this fish because that might be an issue
My Dempseys
Alaskan_Aquarist (Registered) 2007-09-11 20:17:03

I have 2 JD's....a male that is maybe 5 months old and 2 inches long....and a female that is around 6 months and 3.5 inches...they are in a 55 gallon with flat rocks on the bottom....there tankmates are a 6 inch green terror and a 1.5 inch firemouth who thinks hes a jd as well, also a 4 inch spotted sailfin pleco....they all get along with no problems watsoever....
Carrie (Unregistered) 2009-09-25 20:35:57

I was wondering...... did they grow big in the tank together or did you introduce them when they were grown already?
Dempsey problem with Sailfin
Redshark (Unregistered) 2011-08-28 10:24:24

I noticed my dempsey looking rough and found my 12" male Sailfin plec was chasing him around the tank at night. Just beware of this.
Gender
Newb (Unregistered) 2007-09-15 00:10:48

How can you tell the difference between male and female Jack Dempseys?
Mr
Alan (Unregistered) 2009-02-05 15:14:39

the male also usually lacks the spangling on lower part of its head and the female doesnt the pangles go right to bottom unlike the males cheeks
Re:difference between male and
Mike Oxbhig (Unregistered) 2007-09-24 19:55:16

The Females have a lot less color and their fis arent as pointed and long. Also, my male has more red on his dorsal than the female.
Tank Partners
YeaHuh (Registered) 2007-10-16 19:23:08

My Dempsey's are fine with 2 small aquatic frogs and around 7 zebra danios.
Kami (Unregistered) 2007-12-09 12:35:56

Be careful with the Dempsey and the danios. My Dempsey is probably about 4 or 5 inches long and I had two zebra danios in with him and they were fine for about a month or two and now he has eaten both of them.
like this
will (Unregistered) 2007-10-18 20:17:49

A MALE JACK DEMPSEY HAS 2 BLACK SPOTS ONE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE BODY THE OTHER AT THE BASE OF THE TALE. I HAVE A MALE
Mike (Unregistered) 2009-09-22 19:22:37

That is not always true. I have a 3 year old mated pair. My mail has no such black spots. The most reliable way to tell is the fin shape. Males like most cichlid species have a long slender body with a flailing dorsal fin with a point while the female tends to have a more rounded body and rounded off fins.
The color can also be an indication - Males will have more coloration along the side of their bodies while the female tends to have most of her color (Especially while breeding) on her face with the body turning a dark black. (Similar face color to a Green Terror.
good point
harry dangler (Unregistered) 2010-03-04 00:24:15

i just smoking a blunt the fish look awesome
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vfdffv (Unregistered) 2008-04-22 19:40:06

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need ideals on how to keep my
youngface (Unregistered) 2008-06-10 10:22:21

i have a male and female jack dempsey with about 23 babies in a 55 gal. tank any ideals to keep them healthy anybody
jd and convicts
DJ_SPACEMAN (Unregistered) 2008-09-04 01:10:39

i got a 4 foot tank with 3 jack dempsys 2 females about 3.5cm long and a male about 5cm long along with 2 albino convicts and 1 normal convict about the sam size as the male and they get along fine but when they are hungry they tend to attack eachother but keep them well fed and its all good
kim (Unregistered) 2009-01-04 19:43:52

my jack dempsey attacked my silver dollar overnight, ate off the silver dollars tail..silver dollar is still alive, but jack is acting strange, hiding all day he wont even come out to eat! is he sick from eating the silver dollar or just feeling guilty?
My Dempsey Tank Mates
Big AL (Unregistered) 2009-02-17 11:38:19

I have 2 JAck Dempsey's(one about 3inches and the other about 2) in the company of a male convict(2.5 inches), 2 much larger oscars (6 inches(albino) and 4.5 inches), as well as to small yellow african cichlids and another african cichlid thats blue and has a hump on head. I also have a large Platy (mickey mouse, and its the biggest ive ever seen had him a long time) and he swims always next to the smalled Dempsey all the time. The only aggression in my tank came about 2 months ago when my oscar got big enough to eat all my guppies (I kinda wanted them to get ate). They occasional chase happens but thats about it.
D. Martin (Unregistered) 2009-11-15 07:32:22

I'd like to know the size of your tank. Sounds like you have a disaster tank. You got all kinds of incompatible fish. Not to mention alot of those cihclids grow large. I gop you got a tank that is 200 gallons or over for them later on.
Forgot some tank mates
Big Al (Unregistered) 2009-02-18 06:44:40

1 LG Blue Gorami(4inches)(Runs the tank), and 3 peppered Cory Catfish (I know eventually they may get eat but ill move them out by then, and they keep my tank pretty clean).
help
bobby jr (Unregistered) 2009-02-20 20:47:04

MY JD IS ALONE IN A TANK IT IS 10 GAL. I AM NEW TO THIS SO I NEED HELP. IS IT NORMAL FOR IT TO STAY AT THE TOP OF THE TANK WHEN IT IS JUST NEW TO THE TANK???
dweezil (Unregistered) 2009-02-23 21:20:53

nope, staying at the top isnt normal...your fish will die...guaranteed...
Anonymous (Unregistered) 2010-09-30 21:05:50

wow right to the point... how about advise not rude comments
Anonymous (Unregistered) 2011-06-13 10:21:26

i dont think it was a rude comment... just facts.
Anonymous (Unregistered) 2009-03-02 22:06:35

JD SHOULD BE IN 55 GALLONS AT LEAST. YOUR FISH IS DYING FROM SITTING IN ITS OWN CRAP LITTERALY. GET A BIGGER TANK ASAP
Dara (Unregistered) 2011-10-17 02:16:19

I have a Dempsey and he has been living in a 20 gallon take mostly by himself for nearly a year and he is completely happy. Beautiful colors, very active and also very responsive to both me and my boyfriend. I have read all over the place that they need 55 gallons, period, end of story and that just isn't true in my case and that makes me think it's b.s. that someone came up with ages ago. I admit that 10 seems a bit small but I strongly feel that 20 should be the stated minimum.
n/a
n/a (Unregistered) 2011-11-25 07:37:33

I fully agree with you in regard to the tank size. Mine is in a 29 gallon tank, and he's perfectly happy. He's 6 years old now, and he's never been sick or stressed a day in his life. He's a healthy eater, and very entertaining. He loves to show off. This "55 gallon is a must" thing, is garbage. They don't need that big of a tank if they're your only fish. Mine is very happy in his 29 gallon, and makes it obvious to everyone that he's pleased with his "castle".
ur jd
blaqq313 (Unregistered) 2009-07-19 15:28:06

your jd was at the top because it needs oxygen and in water oxygen rises to the top. get a bubble machine and it adds oxygen into the water.
diet
Anonymous (Unregistered) 2009-08-16 14:23:31

they do well on a shrimp diet
Dara (Unregistered) 2011-10-17 02:18:39

Now THIS makes sense to me. I have noticed that when I go too long without doing a partial water change and the tank becomes dirty, my Jack spends a lot of time at the top right below where the external water filter pours into the tank.
Tank Size
?JackDempsey? (Unregistered) 2009-03-07 08:15:25

If i get 3 jack dempseys how big should the tank be and whats a good diet for one i heard feeder fish get them sick is that true in the US.
D. Martin (Unregistered) 2009-11-15 07:29:04

3 JDs will need a tankl of 150 minimum as adults. Males grow to 10-12 inches and females from 7-8 inches. Feeder fish usually have parasites and a bunch of other diseases. Plus they arent even that nutritious. Try some cichlid pellets like hikari gold, bloodworms, krill, and things like that.
tank size
colten (Unregistered) 2010-06-26 07:36:16

ok first queston 100g for 3 full jd's ,if you want to do feeder do your own, feeders r malnurished and r pack in a tiny tank. 4 yoour own mollies,platies,guppies r great choices.

ps(put feeders in a smaller tank about 20g).
feeder fish
scuba steve (Unregistered) 2009-05-10 00:43:26

ive never heard feeder fish made fish sick? is it maybe because there is some stress in the guppies tank and when you transer them into your cichlid tank they spread ick?
NEW TO THIS
Jordan (Unregistered) 2009-05-12 11:04:33

hey im new to this i got a few experienced friends helping me a bit but i got 3 jack dempseys about an inch to inch and a half in at 10 gallon tank with some clay pots for caves and some fake grass they seem to love it but they wont eat this food i got its mini granules for cichlid? what is the best food for them? and any suggestions on next tank size
D. Martin (Unregistered) 2009-11-15 07:27:01

Try bloodworms, tubifex worms and hikari gold pellets. Plus they need a bigger tank. 55 gallon minimum for on male.
kay (Unregistered) 2011-07-06 02:26:11

Try a high quality flake or pellet as they make a good staple diet also try feeding them frozen blook worms or brine shrimp(not freeze dried) and im sorry to say but `experienced` doesnt a always mean knowledgeable, i dont know what kind of ill advice your friends gave you (they porbably ment well) but they really need atleased a 55gallon for the next few monthes but very soon all those fish will need atleased a 150+ gallon tank. If you cant offer them atleased that its best you rehome them, im sorry but its whats best. Next time please research the fish you are intrested in online or in a uptodate reputable book, before you by them..
big problem !!! jack dempsey a
john (Unregistered) 2009-05-16 13:33:44

Hi I have had a jack dempsey for 8 months. I bought him when he was 1.2 inches, he almost got killed by my 4.5 inch red devil.. so I saved him and rented a nother 55 gallon tank..he had his own tank for 4 months then he grew 5 inches (same size as the red devil) then I put him back with the red devil. the red devil locked his lips with the dempsey..the dempsey took control, and won the battle. 2 more months came by the dempsey killed the red devil.. surprising! but sad. BE VERY CAREFUL WITH THEM! they will get murderous.
Nice fish
D. Martin (Unregistered) 2009-11-15 07:24:20

I got a female JD and shes 4 inches now. I have her in a 55 gallon with a 4 inch Blue Acara, 3 1/2 Sajica, 2 1/2 inch Sajica and anothr Jack dempsey (sex unknown at around 2 1/2 inches). I plan to get rid of the smaller JD it gets picked on. The 4 inch female I have is a ltitle territorial and hides in this log I have and tries to strike any fish that gets near it. I put in a school of 6 zebra danios and 2 are missing, I think she ate them. I added them as dithers to calm her down. Overall, shes a good fish. For those wanting to know a good way to sex them. The female will lack the pearling/spangling like the males. They jsut wont have as much. Plus their gill plate will generally be covered in more blue. The female will look as if she has a blue beard. Shes also a bit more slender in body shape. Only mix them with fish of similar size and aggression and make sure to give all fish adequate space.
dempseydude (Registered) 2009-11-30 13:05:24

I have a 6in pacu and a 4in tiger oscar
and my 3in jack bullys them both but before he came oscar was the boss
wickedclown207 (Unregistered) 2011-05-11 15:13:54

once jacks big enough he's def. the boss. no questions asked. my jack was about 6 inches when i put him in my 200 gal. tank with 2 full grown oscars and in 4 days both oscars were dead.
dempseydiehard (Unregistered) 2009-12-16 20:52:38

I just got a female dempsey for my male and it was love at first sight. They follow each other around the tank and he keeps doing a little dance. It's adorable. I call them Beauty and the Beast.
Switching sides
Poseidon Pat (Unregistered) 2010-01-12 18:15:40

I'm a huge sal****er fish guy I've had sharks rays and exotic fish i've been doing this for 8 years now and the price of having these fish are starting wear down on me especially during the recession. I have a 400 gallon sal****er tank with a wet and dry filter. I was thinking of giving my fish away to a friend and then draining the tank washing it out and filling it up with malawi cichlids. Is this a good idea ? How would I get this across the cycling process? I have sand and lava rock can i just wash it well and fill the tank up?

Please help thank you!
Anonymous (Unregistered) 2012-02-03 09:52:36

It would work fine, i have a 125 gallon tank that was a sal****er tank before i got it and my fish did fine when i put em in. I just rinsed it with a hose and ran a wet towel over the glass. Make sure u rinse out the sand VERY good (if you're re-using it) and u should be fine!
2 jack dempseys
unknowan (Unregistered) 2010-01-17 18:41:59

I have 2 jack dempseys. A female that is 2.5 inches long and a male that is 1inches in a 55 gallon tank. Will they spawn
spwaning
colten (Unregistered) 2010-06-26 07:42:29

they could
2 JDs
ajj (Unregistered) 2010-01-30 22:01:50

I just bought a male and female. At their tank intro, they seemed lively and comfortable. This was short lived. They've gone into hiding all of the time, they won't eat (spirulina flakes, tried live food too), and they seem to scare very easily. As I am looking closely at them they literally freak out and viciously swim away. I've tested my water and all seems to be o.k. Ph may be a little high. On its way down though. These are really cool fish and I really want to keep them alive and happy!!!! PLEASE HELP!!!!
response to Ajj
wickedclown207 (Unregistered) 2011-05-11 15:18:39

try cichled pellets for food or some pieces of lettuce. i had trouble with my jack at first
Anonymous (Unregistered) 2012-02-03 10:00:28

I had the same problem, it lasted almost 2 months in my case. He mellowed out about the same time i got around to getting some driftwood and a couple "cave" style decorations. Just make sure there are several hiding places and they'll mellow out in time
Jack (female or male)?
eric (Unregistered) 2010-04-17 18:02:18

I have a jack dempsey and from reading everything I believe it is a female, but not certain. It's mostly black but blue specs up towards the face. I also have a male Convict i just put in the tank today. So my questions are...is the dempsey female? are the two fish going to get along? do you think they'll breed? I appreciate any help
thanks
jester
Paul (Unregistered) 2010-08-27 14:45:34

Buy plastic separators or make 'em yourself out of plexiglass. In a pinch use a good plastic bag with cardboard inside.
Dara (Unregistered) 2011-10-17 02:40:38

I doubt they will breed and it's possible that you may have to separate them once the JD matures. It sounds like it may be a female but even breeders say sometimes the usual indications don't hold true. If she lays eggs she will become very aggressive to the other fish and even to you on the outside of the tank. (it's almost entertaining at time)
JD
margie (Unregistered) 2010-04-17 21:14:17

I HAVE 4 JD IN A 14 G TANK ,I AM WAITING TO GET A BIGGER TANK, ANYWAY 3 OF THE JD ARE BEING CHASED BY THE BIGGER JD WHAT CAN I DO UNTIL I GET BIGGER TANK?
Femael JD
LGSKnicks88 (Unregistered) 2010-05-09 10:42:06

How many gallons does one single female Jack Dempsey need
tank size
colten (Unregistered) 2010-06-26 07:44:48

55g
tankmate
brewboone (Unregistered) 2010-07-24 14:24:27

I am looking for a tankmate for my JD. he's 3 in max right now. I was looking for something that would clean the tank. i've heard placos are good. True? or is there a shrimp or lobster? thanks
Reply to brewboone about tankm
Robert (Unregistered) 2010-08-17 14:08:16

I keep a 10" male and a 6" female JD with a 8" male and 5" female Green Terror, a 4" female Blue Arca, and a 6" pleco. They are in a 125 gallon aquarium, where they have been for two years. I had the JDs for about a year before I introduced the GTs. They all get along great. Your JD would eat a shrimp or lobster. Go for a pleco, they will cleanup all the algae.
Athan (Unregistered) 2011-03-12 10:52:40

I have a pleco with my 5 inch jd they don't mess with eachother. The only thing I dislike about plecos are that all the ones I have had got lazy after awile. I went to the pet store and bought a japaneese algae eater and he keeps up better then any of my plecos ever did
acuchief
Lorenzl (Unregistered) 2010-08-27 14:22:37

Does it happen that two of the same sex Jack Dempseys lock lips?
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ken (Unregistered) 2010-09-07 12:13:51

is it possible for JDs and convicts 2 breed? bcuz i have bought both at numerous petstores and they all look the same. closer 2 a JD....but not quite like any of the pics i have seen
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ken (Unregistered) 2010-09-07 12:15:34

i have 5 some were sold to me as convicts...and some as jack dempseys. but they all look the same. its very confusing
gen
gen (Unregistered) 2010-09-15 19:32:12

I have two JD's, and they don't play well with others...or each other, for that matter! Had to seperate them with a tank divider for a whle...
JD Is the best
Kris (Unregistered) 2010-09-22 20:24:26

I have a 5 inch male JD and an assortment of other african cichlids in a 55 gallon tank and out of all of them my JD is the most well behaved he dosent bully dosent hide and dosent scatter he comes to the front of the tank when i come home and greats me if i have food or not Hes awesome maybe its because he has always been the only JD in the tank i have a Maingano that terrorizes the others but dosent even think about messing with the JD and my electric yellows bred and had 25 fry and the JD didnt eat them so to all of you who think its hopeless to have a JD with others lol There is hope good luck
jack dempsey with black convic
roberta (Unregistered) 2010-11-01 18:38:17

i haVE a question i have a jd about 4and a half inches long and a black convict about 1 inch long do u think i can put these 2 together in a 30 gallon tank?
jd-mix
jwksr (Unregistered) 2010-11-22 18:41:18

I have 2, 5" JD, with a few much smaller african cichlids. They get along great. including a cat shark red tailed cat and a algae eater. all in a 35 gallon tank. Im in the market for a 75 gal. but completly addicted to the cichlids.my JD are breeding now I moved them too a 10 gal. till hatching. then will move them back to the 35.
unknown (Unregistered) 2011-01-03 08:25:34

you need a bigger tank for your red cat alone they grow up to 5 ft and need a 1300 gal tank to thereselves when big plus as it gets bigger it will eat ur other fish
Glow
Gloria (Unregistered) 2011-02-04 16:55:59

I Have a beautiful Jack Dempsey. I was feeding him gold fish and he ate some and then he stopped feeding. He has not eaten in a few days. How often do they feed? I Hope someone can help me. What do they like to eat and how much and how often,

Thanks
Glow
Anonymous (Unregistered) 2012-02-03 10:06:30

How big is he? If he's smaller, go a day with no food and then offer him some flake food or bloodworms.
cichlids
sk (Unregistered) 2011-05-13 04:17:15

I have 2 dempseys in a 30 gallon tank with a shark (chicken, hides from everyone) My oldest d is 6 months and we brought home baby jack 3 months ago. Baby jack is ok but she (big jack) stopped eating when we feed and rarely eats at all. Now it seems everyone is upset... she had an outburst a week ago and pinballed around the tank, after I saw she had hit her head and knocked scales off, but why???
There tank is always clean and we track all the levels, she doesn't like kale, or fish or krill, only meal worms and now not even that?
Anonymous (Unregistered) 2012-02-03 10:08:14

Does she have plenty of hiding places?
cichlids
sk (Unregistered) 2011-05-13 04:17:44

I have 2 dempseys in a 30 gallon tank with a shark (chicken, hides from everyone) My oldest d is 6 months and we brought home baby jack 3 months ago. Baby jack is ok but she (big jack) stopped eating when we feed and rarely eats at all. Now it seems everyone is upset... she had an outburst a week ago and pinballed around the tank, after I saw she had hit her head and knocked scales off, but why???
There tank is always clean and we track all the levels, she doesn't like kale, or fish or krill, only meal worms and now not even that?
JD and TO
Courtney (Unregistered) 2011-06-06 15:15:21

I just got a jack dempsey and tiger oscar. Are they compatible together? Also, does anyone know how fast they grow?
jd vs. oscar
kerry (Unregistered) 2011-07-16 21:49:08

They might get along?????? JD's get very mean with age!!!!!!!
Anonymous (Unregistered) 2012-02-03 10:36:56

Every fish is different, but in my case my oscar outgrew my jd and picked on him constantly, offer plenty of hiding places (with overhead cover) and if your tank is big enough get some smaller fish to use as dither fish to spread out any aggression. I got 2 gouramis and offered plenty of hiding and it's calm again
Big convict
ShaneO Mac-N (Unregistered) 2011-06-10 11:20:53

I have an 80 gallon tank with a male JD about 4 months old and a Convict, now I know what your thinking but no. This convict is like some kinda hybrid of scientifically engineered one. It is the same size as the jack D and the Jack D is 4 inches long. So this convict is faster, it is stronger, and it completely owned the tank. Until one night. Woke up and all that was there was the head of the convict. And of course Henry. The Jack Dempsey.
mr
anthony mccartney (Unregistered) 2011-06-28 06:15:40

i have my jack dempesy is in with green terror, a large aconvict and apair of jay fagis and there all fine
might help some commonn questi
JD/CIHCLID INFO (Unregistered) 2011-09-17 13:15:32

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JD and Oscar
Anonymous (Unregistered) 2011-10-25 18:23:45

I have a JD and and an oscar the oscar is a little bigger. Once in a while they chase each other but they get along quite well. As a rule of thumb with most cichlids is if you want other types of fish you have to introduce them before the cichlid has established a territory otherwise they will likely bully them and possibly kill them.
JD
Chassi (Unregistered) 2011-11-09 22:18:32

Could I keep my JD in a twenty gallon, are they extremely active fish? I notice mine is always swimming around the twenty gallon I think it's bored haha. Everytime it sees me it swims up and down the glass all excited! What is the least the JD can be in?
Anonymous (Unregistered) 2012-02-03 10:42:19

As long as u keep the water clean and cycled right 40-55 gallon would work. I would get on craigslist and see what kind of tanks from 75-125 are goin for. Butif u just want the one jd and no other fish 55 would be best
Dustin (Unregistered) 2011-12-18 20:24:21

I have a male and a female jack dempsey in a around 50 gallon tank. I should have done research on them instead of listening to the ppl at petsmart. They are of the same age (as far as I know), they were bought at the same time. And from what I have read, the female is 2X bigger than the male, is this normal?
JD and compatability
Seff (Unregistered) 2011-12-22 09:21:40

In my tank, I have 4 convicts and 2 JD's and they get along no problem. They are all younger stage, so they are still in that brown camo stage, so maybe they assume they are all the same, but they are showing no signs of aggression to one another. Also, keeping the temperature on the lower side of the spectrum will help decrease aggression.
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Breeder
BoB (Unregistered) 2012-01-23 02:05:54

I have 12 cyphotilapia frontosa (Burundi strain) 7 stripe

Females 9 inches (10)
Males 13 inches (2)

They breed like crazy and the broods are perfect.
These cichlids are cooler than jack dempseys and are very expensive when they get big. I've seen a colony my size go for $1800 on CL.

My cichlids are way cooler jack dempseys and everything else sucks ass
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